Probably short guy complex--Kayla Gill
Obviously, the writing I chose to write about this week is the one concerning women. In this particular piece, Antronius and Magdalia are having a discussion on women which turns into a heated argument about a woman's place regarding "how much knowledge" a woman should attain. Something seemed off in Antronius' argument. He seemed to not really have a valid reason for why he thought women shouldn't, well, pretty much have any intelligence. Plus, his reason seemed to change every time she would ask. His main argument seemed to be answered with the idea that you can not enjoy your life with you are stuck in the world of knowledge. Magdalia argued however that you enjoy life more when you are knowledgeable.
"Magdalia- Tell me: how do you measure good times?
Antronius- By sleep, dinner parties, doing as one likes, money, and honours.
Magdalia- But if to these things God added wisdom, you wouldn't enjoy yourself?
Antronius- What do you mean by wisdom?
Magdalia- This: understanding that a man is not happy without the goods of the mind; that wealth, honours, noble birth make him neither happier nor better.
Antronius- Away with that wisdom."
In further discussion throughout this argument, it seems that Antronius is not against women having knowledge strictly because they are women. He speaks of how he does not teach his own monks knowledge of such. It seems that he is trying to hide the fact that he is not knowledgable himself by making the excuse that he does not want to know. He seems to have a complex that hides his own insecurities by the degradation of others. He feels the need to be on top as far as importance and anyone who has knowledge outside his willingness to reach, slowly exceeds his importance.
PS: I commented on AnnaKate and Abbigayle's
"Magdalia- Tell me: how do you measure good times?
Antronius- By sleep, dinner parties, doing as one likes, money, and honours.
Magdalia- But if to these things God added wisdom, you wouldn't enjoy yourself?
Antronius- What do you mean by wisdom?
Magdalia- This: understanding that a man is not happy without the goods of the mind; that wealth, honours, noble birth make him neither happier nor better.
Antronius- Away with that wisdom."
In further discussion throughout this argument, it seems that Antronius is not against women having knowledge strictly because they are women. He speaks of how he does not teach his own monks knowledge of such. It seems that he is trying to hide the fact that he is not knowledgable himself by making the excuse that he does not want to know. He seems to have a complex that hides his own insecurities by the degradation of others. He feels the need to be on top as far as importance and anyone who has knowledge outside his willingness to reach, slowly exceeds his importance.
PS: I commented on AnnaKate and Abbigayle's
You did a far better job of explaining Antronius than I did. I agree completely with you, because Antronius says himself that he doesn't even care what happens to the monks, just as long as he has some form of power and knowledge over them. In saying this he is as shallow as an ankle-deep kiddie pool and because of this perfectly embodies the people that Erasmus wants to rid the church of. -Zane Duke
ReplyDeleteI love this first of all because we wrote on the same quotation but had totally different interpretations of it! I totally agree with you. Like zane said, he doesn't care what happens to the monks and I don't think he honestly cares how much the women know. He is just trying to cover up the fact that he doesn't know that much. Whoever is smarter than him automatically becomes his new target. We sometimes attempt to have that same cover up and look down upon people who know more even though we don't try to get to their same level of knowledge.
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Antronius has got to be one of the most frustrating people we have had to read about so far, aside from Julius in one of this week's other readings. I don't understand how one could be so proud of their willingness to be ignorant. Unfortunately, there are many people that share Antronius' mindset whether they realize it or not. Antronius really embodies the whole concept of "ignorance is bliss." However, the Bible tells us to seek wisdom, so we must continue to seek it whether or not it will bring us some type of temporary happiness
ReplyDeleteYES. He is so lazy. He doesn't wanna put in work. He doesn't want to educate himself. He wants to party and ride horses or something like that and ignore life. He wants to distract himself from real life. And in keeping others ignorant he most likely feels adequate and validated. Sounds like your average college student to me... (no specific shade being thrown)
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