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It is interesting to see women's rights awareness in 1524. While the concept is not any newer than women, it is typically referred to when discussing anywhere from the 1850s to today. The truly interesting part of this text is that the same standards that women were held to back then are the same that they were held to back in 1848 and a few are still held today by small minorities of small minded people. These standards that Antronius holds against Magdalia have absolutely no foundation other than circular reasoning. While the Abbot is meant to be a silly character and the woman a smart character pointing out the abbot's silliness and circular reasoning. But, let's not forget that this is meant to be a satire instead of a comedy, and therefore there must be something to learn from it. If we apply what we learned about Abelard (paper idea!) then it can be stated that Erasmus was trying to inform people of the lack of wisdom and excess of meaningless prayer going on in the clergy and its desperate need to be reformed. while some think his measures too drastic and his punishment deserved, he makes good points and gives an amazing defense as to why women should be educated.

While "Julius Excluded from Heaven" may have at one point been considered a satire, its humor has been lost in time bringing its truth and meaning to the surface. While written in 1514 this satire still holds true and acts as more of a window into the life and thoughts of the clergy. While not all clergy is corrupt it is incorrect to assume that all clergy are good or try to be so. This is even seen in Confessions (paper idea!) as Pope Augustine confesses to the sins in his life in the form of a testimony. this was done to preach the greatness of God's mercy and love. Julius, on the other hand, was not trying to do this at all. Yet again we see Erasmus using satire to tell a horror story about the actions and decisions of the church. While yet again the method of delivery was questionable, he did a great job at showing issues about the church that needed to be reformed. He also gave us a better guide as to how a Pope or pastor was to act and what should get them fired.

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